You're Included Interview Series
Welcome to You're Included, a series of interviews with Trinitarian theologians, now hosted on the website of Grace Communion Seminary. Most programs are 25-28 minutes long, available in audio, video, and edited transcripts. They are alphabetized by the interviewees' last names, and then listed in chronological order.
NEWEST INTERVIEWS: JEANNINE GRAHAM AND GEORDIE ZIEGLER
Dr. Anderson studied under Thomas F. Torrance at Edinburgh University in Scotland. He was a pastor, a professor of theology and ministry at Fuller Theological Seminary, and author of numerous books. He died in 2009.
In the first interview, Dr. Anderson points out the importance of having our theological viewpoint based on God's revelation of himself in Jesus Christ.
In the second interview, which is 49 minutes long, Dr. Anderson talks about relating our lives to God’s reality, what God has become in becoming human, adoption, the parable of the prodigal, our necessary connection with Christ, and the emergent church.
Jeremy Begbie, Professor of Theology at Duke Divinity School, received a PhD in 1987 from the University of Aberdeen. He is interviewed here by GCS President Gary W. Deddo.
The first interview is 23 minutes. Dr. Begbie discusses the beginnings of his passion for music and theology, and explores various historical approaches to music.
The second interview is 8 minutes; Dr. Begbie shares his thoughts on the unique powers of music and how they enrich our understanding of theology.
Douglas A. Campbell
Douglas A. Campbell is Professor of New Testament at Duke Divinity School in Durham, North Carolina. He received his PhD in 1989 from the University of Toronto.
The first interview gets to the heart and core of Paul's gospel. It includes our Reality with a capital "R" plus our participation with Christ and with each other in communion with God. 28 minutes.
In the second interview, Dr. Campbell encourages us to look at the gospel of grace in a new way. He speaks about how the gospel addresses and informs our understanding of sin and ethics in a way that challenges the model of a conditional or contractual grace. 27 minutes.
The third interview looks at examples of how Paul brought the gospel and purpose to the mission field. 30 minutes.
The fourth interview focuses on the book of Romans, centering on the core teachings of Romans chapters 5 through 8. 25 minutes.
Elmer Colyer is professor of systematic theology at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary, and pastor of a Methodist congregation. Dr. Colyer received his Ph.D. from Boston College/Andover Newton in 1992.
1. Dr. Colyer talks about the weaknesses of the concordance method of theology, that the Bible is not an end in itself, and Trinitarian theology. 35 minutes.
2. Dr. Colyer talks about the theology of Thomas Torrance, the vicarious humanity of Christ, and “the logic of grace.” 27:51
3. Dr. Colyer discusses predestination and Trinitarian theology. Some people assume that God is the best of our own ideals, others accept him the way he has revealed himself in Christ. 27:58
4. Dr. Colyer talks with Mike Feazell about the practical theology of Thomas F. Torrance. 24:51
5. Dr. Colyer discusses how hell and God’s wrath are related to God’s love. 30:46
6. Dr. Colyer examines the relationship between judgment and grace. 30:08
7. Dr. Colyer discusses repentance with us and why we don’t repent well on our own. 28:47
8. Dr. Colyer explains why church renewal programs don’t work and how gospel-centered congregations need to take the lead. 31:06
9. Dr. Colyer explores the Bible and how the church has wrestled with how theology has shaped our interpretations. 30:56
Gerrit Scott Dawson
Gerrit Scott Dawson is senior pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He received his D.Min. degree in 2002 from Reformed Theological Seminary.
1. Mike Feazell and Dr. Dawson discuss the importance of Jesus being human even after his ascension. 28:13
2. Dr. Dawson discusses the challenges facing the church today, and the Christian’s role in evangelism. 23:22
3. Drs. Feazell and Dawson discuss the significance of the fact that Jesus Christ is still human, that the incarnation continues into eternity. 29:48
4. The real God is a God who knows us utterly, loves us passionately and transforms us continually. Even before I turned towards Jesus, he had turned towards me. 26:42
Cathy Deddo received a master’s degree in theology from Fuller Theological Seminary. She is the author of Bible studies and reflections at www.trinitystudycenter.com.
In this interview, she discusses the role that theology plays in our everyday relationships. 26 minutes.
You might also be interested in some videotaped presentations that she has done: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cathy+deddo
Gary W. Deddo was, at the time of the interviews, a senior editor at InterVarsity Press. He is now an employee of Grace Communion International, and President of Grace Communion Seminary. Dr. Deddo earned his PhD at the University of Aberdeen in Aberdeen, Scotland, under Professor James Torrance.
1. Who Is God? Why does God tell people what to do? 26:47
2. God’s Plan to Share His Love. God’s plan to share his love throughout the universe. 28:18
3. Those Who Never Heard the Gospel. What happens to people who don’t seem to have a chance to hear the gospel? 31:49
4. Karl Barth and His Theology. Theologian Karl Barth is important because he pointed to the gospel, and God as he revealed himself in Scripture. 33:10
5. Is It Hard to Be Saved? Why did Jesus say that it was difficult for people to be saved? 28:46
6. What Is Repentance? “Who is God?” and the real meaning of repentance. 27:44
7. Participation in Christ. What does it mean to say that we “participate” with God? 25:58
8. What Is Jesus Doing in Our Sanctification? And what about evangelism? 30:45
Gordon Fee is professor emeritus of New Testament at Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia. He received his PhD in 1966 from the University of Southern California.
We have three interviews with Dr. Fee:
1. The Book of Revelation. Dr. Fee talks with Mike Feazell about the book of Revelation and basic principles of understanding Scripture. 30:55.
2. How Should We Read the Bible? Dr. Fee discusses common mistakes in the way that people read the Bible. 30:55.
3. Like Father, Like Son. Dr. Gordon Fee talks about the renewed image of the Father through his likeness shared in Christ the Son. 26:19.
David A. S. Fergusson is Professor of Divinity and Principal at New College in the University of Edinburgh.
In this interview, Dr. Fergusson talks with Gary Deddo about his Gifford Lecture series and the resulting publication Faith and Its Critics: A Conversation. They discuss his thoughts on New Atheist’s critical views of religion. 26:40.
Dr. Jeannine Graham is the Associate Professor of Religious Studies, George Fox University, in Newburg, OR. She received her Ph.D. at the University of Aberdeen, under the direction of Professor James B. Torrance.
In the first interview, Dr. Graham shares with us her profound appreciation for good theology and some insights from her teaching and writing on the vital connection between the incarnation and saving work of Jesus Christ through his Cross. Length: 26 minutes.
In the second interview, she helps us understand and appreciate the depth and meaning of Jesus’s exclusive connection to human nature as the One for the Many, our union with Christ by the Holy Spirit and his continuing ministry in our place and on our behalf. Length: 24 minutes.
Myk Habets is head of Carey Graduate School in New Zealand. He received his PhD from the University of Otago in 2006.
The interviews with Dr. Habets were recorded, but the technical quality was not sufficient for either video or audio, but we were able to transcribe the interviews.
Trevor Hart is Professor of Divinity at the University of St. Andrews in Edinburgh, Scotland. He received his PhD from the University of Aberdeen in 1989.
J. Michael Feazell interviewed Dr. Hart in Scotland.
1. Art and Imagination in the Church. There is a place for the various arts and for imagination in the church. 29:50.
2. God the Father, Reflected in Jesus Christ. There is positive encouragement and assurance in knowing that God's eternal purpose is to be God in Jesus Christ for us — that God the Father is fully reflected in the face of Jesus. 28:23.
3. God's heart beats with love for everyone he’s made, so he calls them into fellowship with himself. This is good news, not just for Christians but for everyone. 25:37.
George Hunsinger, professor of systematic theology at Princeton Theological Seminary, received his PhD in 1988 from Yale University.
There are four interviews:
What Christ Did Was Effective for All. The
election that really counts is that we are elected or chosen in Jesus Christ, the
Chosen One. 32:34.
Our Lives Are Hidden in Christ. Colossians 3:3
has been called a decisive verse for the New Testament. Our lives in Christ are
real, and yet can’t always be seen. 26:41.
- Focus on Christ. It’s important to keep our
focus on Christ and the relational nature of the Eucharist; it can serve to
break down denominational barriers. 33:20.
- The Eucharist and Ecumenism. Dr. Hunsinger
examines the theology of the Eucharist across different Christian heritages. 43:30.
- 1. What Christ Did Was Effective for All. The election that really counts is that we are elected or chosen in Jesus Christ, the Chosen One. 32:34.
Michael Jinkins is president of Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary. He received his PhD from the University of Aberdeen in 1990.
Dr. Gary Deddo interviewed him. Michael Jinkins reflects on his time in seminary and discusses his book Invitation to Theology. 21:21
Christian Kettler is professor of religion at Friends University in Kansas. He received his PhD in 1986 from Fuller Theological Seminary, working with the late Dr. Ray Anderson.
1. The Importance of Jesus’ Humanity. How theology affects the average person, the importance of Jesus’ humanity, and how we share in the faith of Christ.
2. The Actuality of Salvation. People like to talk about the potential of salvation, but the Bible refers to the actuality of salvation.
3. The Three-Fold Word of God. The Word of God is threefold: Jesus Christ is the living Word, the Bible is the written word, and preaching is the spoken word.
4. The Ministry of Ray Anderson. The ministry and theology of the late Ray Anderson.
C. Baxter Kruger
C. Baxter Kruger earned his PhD in 1989 from Kings College, University of Aberdeen, studying under James B. Torrance. He is president of Perichoresis, a non-profit ministry.
The first three interviews are audio only, with C. Baxter Kruger and Steve Horn. There are five video interviews with Dr. Kruger by himself.
See also William Paul Young, for some interviews with William Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger together.
Alister McGrath, Professor of Science and Religion at Oxford University, earned a doctorate in molecular biophysics in 1977, a doctorate in divinity in 2001 and was awarded a third doctorate in 2013.
In this interview, Dr. McGrath discusses his journey into the study of science and theology, his discovery of C. S. Lewis, and other issues.
John E. McKenna was adjunct Professor of Biblical Studies at Azusa Pacific Seminary. He studied under Thomas F. Torrance at the University of Edinburgh and received his PhD from Fuller Theological Seminary. He died in 2018.
1. No Separation Between God and Humanity. The difference our view of non-Christians makes in our relationship with them.
2. God Gives Us Freedom. The freedom we have because God loves us and is not angry with us.
3. God Chooses to Be With Us. The freedom we have in God, and that God will not be who he is without us.
4. The Little Credo of the Great I-AM. The Little Credo of the Great I AM in Exodus 34:6 and the continuity of grace in Old and New Testaments.
5. The Vicarious Humanity of Christ. The importance of the vicarious humanity of Christ.
Jeff McSwain is the founder of Reality Ministries of Durham, North Carolina. Jeff earned his doctorate in 2015 at the University of St. Andrews.
1. How to help young people experience the loving embrace of Jesus Christ.
2. Some people think that the Father is angry, and Christ is appeasing his anger. But the truth is quite different.
3. The difference between Calvinism and Arminianism, and the Reformed view of Karl Barth.
4. If we are new creations, why do we still have old habits? Jeff McSwain talks about sanctification.
5. We all bring our own viewpoint to Scripture, so it’s important for us to read the Bible through a Christ-centered lens.6. Jeff McSwain describes the goal of Reality Ministries – to help adolescents understand that they belong.
Steve McVey (D.Min., Luther Rice Seminary), is founder of GraceWalk Ministries.
1. Christians live by trusting in the grace of Christ.
2. Dr. McVey shares the theological insights he has gained over the years.
3. It’s important to understand the cross, and how it affects our view of the whole being of God, Father, Son and Spirit.
4. The frequently misunderstood topic of God’s wrath, and its relationship with God’s love.5. Dr. McVey discusses the themes found in his book, Grace Walk.
Paul Louis Metzger
Paul Louis Metzger is Professor of Christian Theology and Theology of Culture at King’s Multnomah University in Portland, Oregon. He received his PhD in 1999 from King's College in London.
1. Relationships are important in the way we share the gospel.
2. Dr. Metzger talks with Dr. Feazell about the need for the church to include all peoples.
3. Converted Christians will be led by the Holy Spirit to care for others, reflecting the communion within the Triune God.4. Dr. Metzger talks about participation in the triune life of God.
Paul Molnar is professor of systematic theology at St. John’s University in New York. He received his PhD from Fordham University in 1980.
1. The importance of keeping Christ at the center of our thoughts about God.
2. Salvation is us as humans being drawn into Christ’s relationship with God the Father.
3. God’s will gets complicated when it intersects with our choices.
4. When we try to separate the gift from the giver, grace separated from God, we make salvation about ourselves.
Roger J. Newell
Roger J. Newell is Associate Professor of Religious Studies at George Fox University. Dr. Newell completed his doctoral studies under Professor James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland.
1. Gabriel announced to Mary that she would give birth to the Son of God. Her response to is exemplary.
2. Dr. Newell discusses the theological insights in C.S. Lewis’ fiction.
3. Dr. Newell discusses the relationship between theology and German history in the 20th century.
Cherith Fee Nordling
Cherith Fee Nordling is Associate Professor of Theology at Northern Baptist Theological Seminary. She earned her PhD in 2003 from the University of St. Andrews in Scotland.
1. The humanity of Jesus Christ, and what it means to be human.
2. The nature of the resurrected body and the significance of Jesus becoming fully human.
3. What Jesus’ humanity means for us: Jesus is truly human, and that shows us what it means for us to be truly human.4. From the beginning God has wanted his people to bear his image.
Robin Parry is an editor for Wipf and Stock Publishers. He received a PhD in 2001 from the Cheltenham and Gloucester College of Higher Education in England.
1. A Trinitarian Perspective in Worship. The importance of having a trinitarian perspective in our worship.
2. Lament and the Role of Israel in Salvation History. Dr. Parry discusses the importance of “lament” and the role of Israel in salvation history.
Andrew Purves, Professor of Reformed Theology at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, received his PhD in 1978 from the University of Edinburgh, in Scotland.
1. The primary pastoral question: What is Jesus up to that I can bear witness to?
2. A pastor should connect the story of God with the context of individual people, so the pastor needs to be tightly connected to God and the people.
3. Dr. Purves recounts valuable learning experiences he has had in ministry and stories of people who have had an impact on his life.
4. Ministers are not messiahs — their role is to join the Messiah in the work he is already doing.
Andrew Root, Chair of Youth and Family Ministry at Luther Seminary in St. Paul, Minnesota, received a Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary in 2005.
1. The importance of building relationships in youth ministry.
2. The difference between influence and place-sharing in youth ministry.
3. We do not need to be afraid of doubt. When we fear that “God is not here,” that is when God is likely to be found.
4. Relational youth ministry arises out of place sharing rather than patterns of influence.
Fred Sanders is professor of theology in the Torrey Honors Institute at Biola University, La Mirada, CA. He received a PhD from the Graduate Theological Union (Berkeley, CA) in 2001.
1. Dr. Sanders discusses his book The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything.
2. Dr. Sanders discusses the nature of our inclusion and prayer life within the Trinity.
Stephen Seamands is professor of Christian doctrine at Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Kentucky. He received his PhD from Drew University in 1983.
1. What are the practical implications of doctrines? They inform us and give us a framework.
2. Dr. Seamands explores how we were created in the Trinitarian image of God.
3. Dr. Seamands explores how we allow Jesus to help us in the process of healing and truly forgiving and forgetting, even redeeming our hurt.
Daniel Thimell is Associate Professor of Theological-Historical Studies at Oral Roberts University. Dr. Thimell earned his Ph.D. from the University of Aberdeen in 1993.
1. People had no joy in their Christianity, because they had not understood how effective the work of Christ was.
2. Jesus Christ won a completed salvation for each of us.
3. Christianity is not primarily about right behavior, but about relying on Christ’s completed work.4. The Trinity is the foundation for the doctrine of God’s love and the knowledge of God. We are called to participate in his life.
Alan Torrance earned his doctorate in theology at the University of Erlangen-Nurnberg in Germany. He is professor of systematic theology at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland.
1. What the Incarnation means to us and how grace leads us to godly living.
2. The wrath of God and hell come about because of God’s love. Good science indicates God’s existence.3. How should the work of Christ affect our lives and relationships?
David Torrance studied in Basel, Switzerland, under Karl Barth and Oscar Cullmann. He served in the Church of Scotland from 1955 until his retirement.
1. God pours out his love, granting us grace by the finished work of Christ, and our thankful response to that.
2. To receive Christ means that we share in his death and his resurrection — death to our old life of sin.
3. Rev. Torrance recounts how God led him into ministry.
4. Rev. Torrance shares some of the lessons he has learned about parish ministry.5. How should we approach our sin, personally and in the pulpit?
Robert T. Walker is a nephew of the late Thomas F. Torrance. He edited Torrance’s lecture notes into two books describing Torrance’s teachings about the person and work of Jesus Christ.
1. Who Christ is for us, and he has faith for us.
2. The Father was in Jesus Christ, as God become human, who took our humanity into God and gave us a new humanity.3. Jesus’ resurrection frees us from death and sin, and it is the beginning of the reconstitution of everything in Christ.
N.T. Wright is Chair of New Testament and Early Christianity at the School of Divinity at the University of St. Andrews, Scotland. He received a PhD from Oxford in 1980.
N.T. Wright talks about themes in his book, How God Became King: The Forgotten Story of the Gospels.
William Paul Young
William Paul Young is the author of the best-selling novel The Shack.
1. The nature of relationship is embedded in the Trinitarian character and nature of God.
2. The popular view of God is a Christianized Zeus, as opposed to the loving Father portrayed by the “prodigal’s father.”3. Many people experience a “disconnect” in trying to trust the “angry” God who requires his Son’s death.
William Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger
In interviews with Paul Young and Baxter Kruger together, they discuss the following:
1. Author Paul Young and theologian C. Baxter Kruger discuss The Shack, religion, and a new understanding of relationship with God.
2. Young and Kruger continue discussing religion and the hope for a new understanding of relationship with God.
3. Young and Kruger talk about Dr. Kruger’s book, The Shack Revisited, which examines the theology embedded in Young’s book.4. Young and Kruger discuss the impact of the Trinity on evangelism, and our participation in the message of Jesus.
Geordie Ziegler is a pastor at the Columbia Presbyterian Church in Vancouver, Washington. He received a PhD in theology from the University of Aberdeen.
In the first interview, Dr. Ziegler speaks about his book Trinitarian Grace and Participation: An Entry into the Theology of T.F. Torrance. He also discusses the profoundly personal and relational shape of God’s grace. Length: 21:47.
In the second interview, he discusses an approach to spiritual formation that does not start with ourselves, but places at the center God the Father’s relationship with the eternal Son. Length: 25:41.